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	<title>Comments on: Changes At Work</title>
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	<description>… and there is much to be learned</description>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://barelyenough.org/blog/2006/03/changes-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-604</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Peter,

moving from Ruby to C# is quite hard, agreed. But when you look at the recent and forthcoming additions to C# (Closures, Lambda-Expr., Mixin-Classes [they call them extension methods]) it seems that they are mainly inspired by the scripting camp. C# is quite fun to work with and the framework library is designed very well.

The main problem in my eyes is the very different mind set of the usual .NET developers. They live in this almost closed world and don&#039;t look much at Open-Source. Some great Java-Projects like Hibernate were ported to .NET but these are just rare examples.

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Peter,</p>
<p>moving from Ruby to C# is quite hard, agreed. But when you look at the recent and forthcoming additions to C# (Closures, Lambda-Expr., Mixin-Classes [they call them extension methods]) it seems that they are mainly inspired by the scripting camp. C# is quite fun to work with and the framework library is designed very well.</p>
<p>The main problem in my eyes is the very different mind set of the usual .NET developers. They live in this almost closed world and don&#8217;t look much at Open-Source. Some great Java-Projects like Hibernate were ported to .NET but these are just rare examples.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Williams</title>
		<link>http://barelyenough.org/blog/2006/03/changes-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-603</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd, By the same &quot;torturous path of crazy logic&quot; you gave me the gift of Ruby.  I am disappointed, but these things happen in life.  

Good luck at INL, btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd, By the same &#8220;torturous path of crazy logic&#8221; you gave me the gift of Ruby.  I am disappointed, but these things happen in life.  </p>
<p>Good luck at INL, btw.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://barelyenough.org/blog/2006/03/changes-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-601</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 19:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Rudi.  If you really want to be doing Ruby/Rails at this point it&#039;s pretty easy to find gigs.  Start looking around.  Do a bit of networking at your local Ruby Brigade and when you find something then submit your resignation.  When they ask why you&#039;re leaving so soon, you can reply that you had signed up for a Rails development position that no longer exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Rudi.  If you really want to be doing Ruby/Rails at this point it&#8217;s pretty easy to find gigs.  Start looking around.  Do a bit of networking at your local Ruby Brigade and when you find something then submit your resignation.  When they ask why you&#8217;re leaving so soon, you can reply that you had signed up for a Rails development position that no longer exists.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi Cilibrasi</title>
		<link>http://barelyenough.org/blog/2006/03/changes-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-600</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudi Cilibrasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I consider learning an important component of the benefit/compensation package.  Since all of your future compensation will depend on the skillsets you have developed, it is probably the most effective way to gain a financial bonus over time (unlike those scam option packages) as a non-executive.  Of course, your bonus may come from your increased salary at your next job.  Thing is, if you&#039;re switching from one language to the next instead of getting to be an expert at Ruby and related technologies, then your skillsets are not synergistic they are mutually exclusive.  (Ruby and C#/.NET are opposite in my mind at this point)  That&#039;s why I take my skillset, language, and projects + learning extremely seriously.  I would surely quit if something like this happened to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider learning an important component of the benefit/compensation package.  Since all of your future compensation will depend on the skillsets you have developed, it is probably the most effective way to gain a financial bonus over time (unlike those scam option packages) as a non-executive.  Of course, your bonus may come from your increased salary at your next job.  Thing is, if you&#8217;re switching from one language to the next instead of getting to be an expert at Ruby and related technologies, then your skillsets are not synergistic they are mutually exclusive.  (Ruby and C#/.NET are opposite in my mind at this point)  That&#8217;s why I take my skillset, language, and projects + learning extremely seriously.  I would surely quit if something like this happened to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://barelyenough.org/blog/2006/03/changes-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-598</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Through a torturous path of crazy logic I feel like I had a hand in this. I helped set Donnie loose on the world at large and you are paying the penalty. I am leaving DG as well. This next week will be my last. I am moving on to a software position at Idaho National Laboratories (www.inl.gov).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Through a torturous path of crazy logic I feel like I had a hand in this. I helped set Donnie loose on the world at large and you are paying the penalty. I am leaving DG as well. This next week will be my last. I am moving on to a software position at Idaho National Laboratories (www.inl.gov).</p>
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		<title>By: Carla</title>
		<link>http://barelyenough.org/blog/2006/03/changes-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-596</link>
		<dc:creator>Carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could always join the ranks of your new host (of which I&#039;m an employee--hi and welcome!). We need sysadmins that have strong skills, and RoR programming is crucial to Site5&#039;s growth. Either way, glad your site will be hosted by us. :)
http://www.site5.com/about/employment.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could always join the ranks of your new host (of which I&#8217;m an employee&#8211;hi and welcome!). We need sysadmins that have strong skills, and RoR programming is crucial to Site5&#8242;s growth. Either way, glad your site will be hosted by us. :)<br />
<a href="http://www.site5.com/about/employment.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.site5.com/about/employment.php</a></p>
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